First time Baltic trolling

[Roolis]

hallo, gentlemen,

hope you will not let me down and help me to prepare for a first ever trolling competition held in Lithuania on the 25th of April in Klaipeda. targer salmon or trout.

I have down rigers and two side planers for each rod. So I can acctualy troll with 6 rods if i put two rods on each down rigger. My concreate questiosn are:

1. How deep i should look for a fish here in south eastern corner of Baltic sea?
2. How far from shore?
3. What speed in this cold water?
4. Is it worth to put two rods on each down riger and what distances in between lures ?
5. Flashers - do i need them??better on down riger or on side planner?


please help me. I saw youtube that germans are really doing well in their baltic corner , so undertand the fishing can be really good here as well, but so far three of my friens catching sea trout up to 1.5kg not biger.... I mean on trolling.

if lazy to write me - i can call you, jsut give me your tel number, so to be it quicker

By the way everybody are most welcome - vodka and snacks will be more than enough for participants. More info you can get if PM me.

Thanks/tack

Roolis

[GLF]

I can not help you out with any specific information about the Baltic Sea, but I can answer questions about trolling. I live in the U.S. and troll for salmon most of the summer.

In the states we are allowed to two hooks per line. We add what is called a "slider" to the main line. This is usually a 6' peace of line with a snap swivel on both ends. After we let out the bait and hook up the main line to the release, I will run the ball down 5-10' and add the slider. This clips on the main line, and we use a rubber band to hold it in place, so it does not slid down to the cannonball.

For a trolling speed, generally I am trolling 2.7-3.0 on the GPS. This can very because of underwater currents. I have a speed and temp probe that I also use. This gives me the speed at the cannonball. This is more accurate than GPS speeds. Generally I am running around 2.5mph on the speed and temp probe.

I am not sure about your fishes preferred water temps, but in the Great Lakes, Chinook Salmon prefer 42-48 degrees. I normally fish 54 degrees and colder.

I do not stack my riggers(two rods on one rigger). This is my preference.

I use braided line with dipsey divers to get extra baits down to the strike zone.

Flashers area must have item. I use ProTroll flashers. Some of my favorite colors are blue bubble, green bubble, mountain dew, and double pearl fish scale.

Good luck,

Mike

[Roolis]

Thanks, Mike,

yours noted.

also still waiting for locals to say something.

thanks

Roolis


I can not help you out with any specific information about the Baltic Sea, but I can answer questions about trolling. I live in the U.S. and troll for salmon most of the summer.

In the states we are allowed to two hooks per line. We add what is called a "slider" to the main line. This is usually a 6' peace of line with a snap swivel on both ends. After we let out the bait and hook up the main line to the release, I will run the ball down 5-10' and add the slider. This clips on the main line, and we use a rubber band to hold it in place, so it does not slid down to the cannonball.

For a trolling speed, generally I am trolling 2.7-3.0 on the GPS. This can very because of underwater currents. I have a speed and temp probe that I also use. This gives me the speed at the cannonball. This is more accurate than GPS speeds. Generally I am running around 2.5mph on the speed and temp probe.

I am not sure about your fishes preferred water temps, but in the Great Lakes, Chinook Salmon prefer 42-48 degrees. I normally fish 54 degrees and colder.

I do not stack my riggers(two rods on one rigger). This is my preference.

I use braided line with dipsey divers to get extra baits down to the strike zone.

Flashers area must have item. I use ProTroll flashers. Some of my favorite colors are blue bubble, green bubble, mountain dew, and double pearl fish scale.

Good luck,

Mike

[67n]

Don't know anyone tried the area outside Lithuenia, but I have some experience from the Baltic Sea (Karlshamn, Simrishamn and Bornholm). Important questions, do you have foodfish there, and do the salmon feed on them. There are two different games to fish for feeders or fish for movers. If they are feeders work 40 mow (meters of water) and out to 70-80m (no idea what deep you have there). Spread Your baits in the upper 2/3 of water, stack (run two rods) on each downrigger, 20ft between ball/weight and stacker. Run 2 on planers with 30-60g sinkers or kuusamos. You should try flasher, spes on your deepest line. No feeders there, just moving salmon: skip the stackers. Don't need as deep as 40mow. Run one one each downrigger, 50ft and higher. 2 with planers and 2 flatlines behind the boat(200-300ft) Speed 1,5-2,5 knots 1,5-2 if you run baitfish, 2-2,5 if you run spoons.
BR Einar

[Roolis]

Thanks! Einar!


Don't know anyone tried the area outside Lithuenia, but I have some experience from the Baltic Sea (Karlshamn, Simrishamn and Bornholm). Important questions, do you have foodfish there, and do the salmon feed on them. There are two different games to fish for feeders or fish for movers. If they are feeders work 40 mow (meters of water) and out to 70-80m (no idea what deep you have there). Spread Your baits in the upper 2/3 of water, stack (run two rods) on each downrigger, 20ft between ball/weight and stacker. Run 2 on planers with 30-60g sinkers or kuusamos. You should try flasher, spes on your deepest line. No feeders there, just moving salmon: skip the stackers. Don't need as deep as 40mow. Run one one each downrigger, 50ft and higher. 2 with planers and 2 flatlines behind the boat(200-300ft) Speed 1,5-2,5 knots 1,5-2 if you run baitfish, 2-2,5 if you run spoons.
BR Einar

[67n]

Hi Roolis!
Let us know how you did in the competition.
BR Einar

[Roolis]

Hi, All,

so 12 boats were participating in first Lithuanina competition. Two small sea trout were caught and a bounch of cod(cod didnt go in count). Weather was hot 20 C and no wind. It was perfect for boating bot not for fishing - i guess.

I had 8 rods: 4 on side planners and 2 on each rigger. I tried to found the deapest possibal waters in Lithuanian economy zone. Deepest i found was 45 meters and i was about 12 miles from shore. watter temperature was 49 F. I tried to cover 2/3 of water that means that as from 25 m up to 2 m. Fished with metal spoons different colours. I need more spoons that if for sure....

So no fish but much vodka :)

cheers

Roolis

P.C sorry for my gramma

[Roolis]

So what can i say first salmon is on board !!!!!!! 5.6 kg muscule monster did a great fight! it tood orrange vobler 5 m away where the engine makes water bubles

cheers

Roolis

[Kjelle]

Cool,congratz on the nice fish!


/Kjelle

[Roolis]

tack sa mycket:cool:

[Kjelle]

you welcome

[Alessandro]

So what can i say first salmon is on board !!!!!!! 5.6 kg muscule monster did a great fight! it tood orrange vobler 5 m away where the engine makes water bubles

cheers

Roolis
Congrats, I intend to start fish for salmonfishing this summer on the east coast of the island of Gotland so all news from southern Baltic sea are welcome.

[Alessandro]

I never visited Klaipeda but Vilnius and sportfishing is big in Lithuania, mainly carpfishing but also pike.
What kind of wobbler did you catch you salmon on? I know that Ugly Duckling from Serbia is a big brand in Lithuania.

[Roolis]

Alexandro,

i was using bomber orange with gold belly , it sanks 1 m.

why thi stuff is so expensive all those flashers and bite holders... it like fishing for a gold fish....

i dont know what to do i need minimum 1000 eur to get enough lures for my 8 rods...

somebody help me with info in order not to spend money for bad lures...

[Alessandro]

Classic lure for trolling the Bomber.
If you want to buy spoons the owner of this site sells, 2 €uro each plus shipping if you buy 10 http://www.scandinavian-trolling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279
He want to sell 1700 spoons, some with hook and splitrings.
Also dodgers don´t know the price ask him.
Yes, very expensive sport trolling.
I plan to use use an Salmo Giant Chubby (made in Poland) 95gram as dodger remove hooks and put lead weight underneath the stomach and put releaser in one end, a small experiment, we´ll see if it works?
I bought some Sebile Onduspoon from France, costs 12 €uro each to try for
salmon, they wiegh 45 gram and have a rattle chamber inside, spoon made in plastic.
My brother caught a salmon 20 kilo last year outside Stockholm on a Grizzly spoon colour popcorn (green-yellow with black dots) , very popular colour here in Sweden. Other popular colour is watermelon (green-red with black dots), I caught my best salmon 10,6 kilo on this color (no black dots on it, seedless watermelon) on a small NK28 spoon.
What kind of swivels do you use? I use shampoo ballbearing swivels very important especially when you fish with spoons since they prevent the line from twisting.